Published by fasst on 27 Mar 2012
First off, thanks to Jesse Broadwater, Greg Poole and Goldtip for making this chat happen! We had a great time and Jesse has a tremendous amount of knowledge to share!
Thanks to JHENS for saving all of the logs to build this transcript and to all other moderators that made it in to lend a hand!
[B]Jesse Broadwater Featured Chat[/B]
JHENS87 – Jesse, what made you switch from the shoot through system at Lancaster to the arc-tec cable slide system for Vegas?
Jesse Broadwater- ok, I’ll go with the first question I see….. regarding the move from the shoot thru to the arc tec rod…
Jesse Broadwater- I like the idea of reducing torque, no matter what kind of torque… I feel the bow can be a line, and responds better to any tuning adjustments, and also tends to hold better for me…….
Jesse Broadwater- but using a whole shoot thru cable system on a bow such as a Hoyt, requires some other changes sometimes, and other modifications, to make it work right… it can be a lot of work to get it right…. and not everybody wants to do that, or knows what to do….
Jesse Broadwater- so I found the arc tec rods in France this year at Nimes, and brought it home, and tried it…. it was just so much easier, and cleaner, and also, anybody can use them, with ease… and you get the same effect, as the shoot thru…
Jesse Broadwater- tfdo, where’s your question?
jason t -I would like to know what your scope set-up is for the orange spots at the marked yardage championship in Redding. Whether you prefer a circle, fiberoptic, or dot..? Thanks…
Jesse Broadwater- other question up there on scope set up
Jesse Broadwater- I use a CR scope, and for Redding and field, I use the frosted lens….
Jesse Broadwater- been using the 5 power feather vision lens, with homemade frosting paper…. no clarifier
EASTON94 – there you go Jesse answer that one bud!
Hopperton -I would like to know what v-bar set-up you start with when starting from scratch on a new bow? Is it a lot of weight and then remove till it feels right or little weight and add it on as you go
Hopperton -What determines it?
XXX_Shooter -Hey Jesse…. Just wanted to say hi… Christopher Perkins here bud ttyl…
EASTON94 -bowmadness….give us a mad freakdaddy question!!
Jesse Broadwater. -hi Chris!
jason t -Thank you
Hamdog -I hold a lot steadier with more weight on my bow but my bow arm really gets tired after about 6 ends I then the sight picture is not so steady. I would assume that this is because I do not have enough holding weight. Is there a general rule of thumb you use to figure out the amount of holding weight vs. bow mass weight?
Jesse Broadwater – here’s my deal with holding weight…. and mass weight… I try to use as much as I can, without it biting me in the butt…. what that means is, I want to have enough energy, and strength, to complete my round, whatever it may be, and not getting tired at the end, and loosing points at end of round….
Jesse Broadwater – here is what I found…. I feel the vantage elite is calmer to aim, when the limbs are parallel to the ground, at full draw….. factory specs has the limbs pretty parallel, but not quite flat at full draw, for my set up anyhow, with my size cams and all….
Jesse Broadwater — ok, holding weight, sorry… lemme look
Jesse Broadwater- but yea, there is a link between holding weight and mass weight also…. it all has to work together in harmony, for things to be just right….. For what you’re shooting, that’s the kicker. Don’t be afraid to change your stabilizer setup, for diff types of shooting, to get the most efficiency out of you, and your setup, for what you’re shooting
Jesse Broadwater- and remember, what works in practice, may not, when under pressure, so take away all that you can from a tournament, the next time, and when you go to make a change in practice, remember what it felt like in the tournament scene…. since that’s probably what you are practicing for…
Jesse Broadwater- that’s a general rule of thumb for me. But it fluctuates for me, and that’s why u see me playing with weights a good bit, sometimes all throughout the round….
Bowmaddness- Hi Jesse, I was wondering what is a good 3d arrow you recommend from Gold Tip?
Jesse Broadwater- 3d arrow from gold tip….. I would say the 22 series is a real good all-around arrow, 30x even triple x… really depend on the balance between distance, wind, and how much line catching you think you need…
Jesse Broadwater- I used the 22 series for the k 50 I shot not long ago, and it worked great… I feel I coulda got away with a xxx also though, and grabbed a few extra points, cause they both shoot equally well, if you tune your bow for them, and there wasn’t much wind, it was pretty sheltered ranges..
Jesse Broadwater- ok, what was next question?
edgerat – Jesse, how do you go about setting up your string/cables as it relates to ATA and BH on a new bow? Your VE+ looks to have a pretty short ATA. Do you determine that by shooting the bow and getting the hold where you want it? How did you come to that determination, trial and error or, did someone put you on that idea in the beginning?
Jesse Broadwater- ok, string specs.. a to a specs…
Jesse Broadwater – here is what i found…. i feel the vantage elite is calmer to aim, when the limbs are parallel to the ground, at full draw….. factory specs has the limbs pretty parallel, but not quite flat at full draw, for my set up anyhow, with my size cams and all….
edgerat – Thanks Jesse!
r49740 – ha-ha. Sorry For a draw length need in the middle of cam sizes(spirals), like a 29.25"… would you find it more beneficial to go to 29” and make longer string/shorter cables, or go to 29.5 and do the opposite? With that, can you give a quick idea of what each may feel like(meaning better valley feel, harder wall, one aims higher/lower than the other, etc.)? And to round out the previous string question, which of those two gets your limbs to be more parallel to the ground as you like them? Thanks greatly.
Jesse Broadwater- ok, draw length and cam size with spirals….. I always like to go to the shorter cam size and long string it a lil… gives you a lil more valley…
Mike@R100 – PARTNER….. When you are on your last few ends of and spot tournament AND YOU ARE STILL CLEAN what goes through your head?!? Tonight I shot another 60X but gets sloppy towards then end… I’m not nervous until my last arrow…
bigGP – good question
Jesse Broadwater- what do I think on last few ends of a clean round…… well, you know what the answer should be right?? it should be the same thing, that got you to where you are…. the thing is, you need to just not think about the ending, and enjoy the moments that you are in, until the score cards all filled up, and there are no more spaces to be filled, and someone says “that’s it, we are done”…..
Daniel Boone – Jesse have you shot the GT new Fita arrow and will that be your arrow for field this year
Hamdog – Thank you Jesse.
flatline_shoote – When you are practicing for a Vegas shoot how many arrows do you shoot in practice to make sure you don’t get tired during the tournament. I have been a 3 D shooter and now branching into the spots but I start to lose it on the last 15 or so arrows. Also what do you use as an aiming dot or fiber when shooting Vegas 3 spots
Mike@R100 – THANKS HOMIE, ITS HARD WHEN THEY SAY (THIS IS YOU12TH AND FINAL END) IM LIKE WWWWAAHHHHHHH
Jesse Broadwater- I apologize if I miss someone, just yell at me… I’m trying to go in order…
bonecollector56 – Is there such a thing as too stiff of an arrow for target shooting? Because wouldn’t you want the least movement (flex) in the arrow as possible when the only thing you are shooting is field tips?
Jesse Broadwater- I think the ultra-light, or pro hunters, are an awesome arrow, for a blend of speed, and good dia for outdoor….
Jesse Broadwater- the thing is, I’ve shot all the different arrows from gold tip now, and it’s pretty much as easy as picking the weight, and diameter you think is best for what you’re going to be shooting, and go from there….
bigGP – Not sure who to ask anymore but I think if Jesse could talk about how important strings and cables are to performance and consistency that would be some good info?
jman_23 – what do you use for setting your 2nd and 3rd axis?
fasst – Folks, please do not post a question unless we call your name
Jesse Broadwater- I use the Hamskea leveler for everything… it works awesome, and is easy to use
NEVADAPRO – That’s OK!! I’ve learned to live with it!!LOL!!
Jesse Broadwater- and it works too…. ha-ha!
NEVADAPRO- Gotta love the Hamskea!!!
ferretboy – Jesse: a buddy of yours makes a shoot thru system, I was very interested in getting one for the alpha elite, would that or the arc tilt be better, and congrats on your recent win, great shooting
ferretboy – mike has already given me a price and would like me to be the guinea pig on the alpha shoot through
jman_23 – ok, do you put your bow in a vise or set it on a table to check everything?
Jesse Broadwater- stiff arrow question up there somewhere I saw… I think if you get the arrow coming out of the bow straight, it doesn’t matter if the arrow flexes of not… and use the correct amount of guidance on back, and point weight to tune for the forgiveness factor..
JHENS87 – 1 question at a time please. Gonna make Jesse’s fingers hurt lol
bigGP – He is a delicate flower
ferretboy – hahaha, a delicate flower, priceless, when he’s not looking at Louisville I’m putting that sticker on his bowcase
jman_23 – thanks for everything Jesse!!!
Jesse Broadwater – and I basically just hold level on limb pockets, match the elevation bar to it, then a vise is nice to set the second axis, just clamp hamskea onto elevation bar, and match level in scope to it, while bow is pointed parallel to ground….. set that. Then put alignment pin in hamskea, leave attached to elevation bar, draw bow, and line it up on a plumb string, up and down… make adjustments
fasst – We’ve only got Jesse for a few more minutes y’all, PM me if you have a question and I will call your name in order until time runs out
Jesse Broadwater- I’m fine for a bit,, just lemme have um… don’t wanna miss anybody…
T.FDO – Jesse…How should one go about selecting Brand/Weight/and Length when they have no access to different stabilizers to try? Is there a Formula you use to figure your length/weight for you stabilizers? (This would be for Bowhunter class and just hunting in general) Also…Do you prefer vanes or feathers? Which one? And what length guides the arrow best?
Jesse Broadwater- ok, stabilizer, and vanes/feathers….
ferretboy – Jesse: a buddy of yours makes a shoot thru system, I was very interested in getting one for the alpha elite, would that or the arc tilt be better, and congrats on your recent win, great shooting
fasst – nevada, then montigre, then outback then custard then conquest….whew! We will call yall in that order….
Jesse Broadwater – for hunting, as with target, I think it depends on what you’re doing…. and how much u can handle and all…. but I can’t say there is any given formula to go by when selecting one…. I think the best thing to do here is, find a place/dealer/buddy, that can let you try diff configurations on your bow, and get it in the ball park, then just buy some extra weights, to tinker around with, and carry with you, incase u think u need them….
Jesse Broadwater- but in general, I like to use a 15″ bar out front of my carbon matrix, with about 6-8 oz., and a 12″ back bar, with 10 or so on it…. seems like a lot, but when u get the balance right, it isn’t bad at all, its comfy, and you would be amazed at how much better you will shoot your hunting rig, rather than just a 6″ rubber stabilizer screwed in front, that actually aint doing anything….
Jesse Broadwater – and you will have much more confidence in your shot, and your set up will be a lot more forgiving, when the moment of truth arrives, and that massive 5 point PA buck is in range…. 🙂
ferretboy – hahahahahaha 5 pt.
bigGP – LMAO nice
T.FDO – Hahaha…Thanks Jesse!
Jesse Broadwater- just kidding, there are some nice ones here in PA… just never where I hunt!!
fasst – You’re on deck montigre!
montigre – Hi Jesse, and thanks for doing this chat. How do you go about determining the parameters for fine tuning a specific set up (string/cable length, limb deflection, etc) say for field? What is the baseline you work from and steps considered to reach your desired fit? Thanks!
edgerat – good question!
bigGP – nevada & Mont asked good ones
ferretboy – Jesse is swamped blast big GP with some questions everybody
bigGP – huh? Wrong chat bro! hahahahaha
edgerat – Greg Poole, how much does your dog eat?
NEVADAPRO – Hi Jesse, what do you feel is the most important part of setting up your bow (for either field or indoor) to allow the best possible hold on the spot? Is it more in the DL and holding weight, or in the stabilizer set-up? Thanks!
Jesse Broadwater- Well, I would say we all have a baseline to go off of, and for me, it’s the minor tweaks here and there that can all add up, and make all the difference….
ferretboy – good question edge
fasst – outback jack, you’re up!
bigGP- 12 cups a day of super good dog food with raw liver and venison burger (1 cup)
edgerat – nice, good call Mr. Poole
outback jack – Jesse have you ever had problems with your bow shoulder wanting to rise on you and if so what was one of the things you did to fix it? Thanks.
bigGP – good question bro!!
outback jack – Thanks one of my major problems
Jesse Broadwater- like drawlength, an 1/8″ shorter, longer…. peep height, sight extension length, scope size/power, aiming reference point in scope, stabilizers, holding weight… all of this….. It all can be optimized, for efficiency, for the round you’re preparing for, it just takes time behind the string, actually practicing what you’re preparing for…. (Wow, did that just make sense)
Jesse Broadwater- practicing what you’re preparing for…. hmmm, yea……
bigGP – eeeeasy freakshow
montigre – Thanks!!
Jesse Broadwater- ok, so in field, you got up and down hills, side hills….. terrain…… some wind, some lighting changes… some rain here and there….
edgerat – Greg Poole, have you found a big gain from running a 10 degree down QD on your b-stinger setup?
bigGP – Jesse runs one also. I think he can answer that when its time……….
ferretboy- Hey Greg, what is your opinion on tan slacks and the wearing them at Vegas?
Jesse Broadwater – practice all this stuff, and practice in that weather, to know what your setup does, in those conditions…. unload your quiver on that nasty up or down hill target, and pay attention to what your feeling, and seeing… you see, this sport is all about feel…. so if something doesn’t feel right, you can usually make a change, and the feel will change…. u gotta play to find that comfy spot….
bigGP – bout time!!! We should have been wearing no denim at Vegas forever….it’s a shooter of the year pro event so the nfaa pro dress code applies. It’s just a start
fasst – GoldCustard, have your question ready for Jesse?
Jesse Broadwater – ohh no.. not the slacks!!!
ferretboy- hahahahaha, I threw that in to see if you two were paying attention Jesse
Jesse Broadwater- who’s my next one from?
bigGP – Jesse is in the know zone right now… the freakshow hears and sees all!!! LMAO
bigGP – about the front shoulder
outback jack – me I think
ferretboy – hahahahahaha
fasst – the bow shoulder question, Jesse
fasst- Jesse have you ever had problems with your bow shoulder wanting to rise on you and if so what was one of the things you did to fix it? Thanks.
ferretboy- do you know Jesse’s buddy that makes the shoot through system Greg?
bigGP – who is it?
Jesse Broadwater- I need to write a book…. I tell my wife that all the time, cause it seems I never get out, all of what I want to get out, when somebody asks a question… cause there are so many variables, and scenarios…. I think if just wrote them all down, and got it all out, I would feel better… lol!! Not saying that may book would be worth two nickels to anybody, but for my own good… just to get the info, from my experiences out, and on paper…
ferretboy – mike something or other
bigGP – I have a shoot thru on my VE+………Jesse made it. LMAO
Jesse Broadwater- you’re talking about mike mathews that makes the shoot thru… hes my friend loclally, and knows his stuff!
Jesse Broadwater- very technical savvy guy…
bigGP – wow
bigGP – LOL
ferretboy – that is him, he offered to let me guinea pig with the alpha elite but said his machine is down
edgerat- If Jesse, Gillingham, GRIV, and a few of the others all got together and did something that would be EPIC.
Jesse Broadwater- ok, 40c and some lint…. Ill do it!!
ferretboy – just to be fair I was saying that Jesse was seriously undervaluing his book
edgerat – you push a hard bargain Broadwater but, I will do it.
bigGP – shoulder question Jesse
Jesse Broadwater – shoulder…..
bigGP – come on ADD boy!
fasst – lol
ferretboy – I’m in stitches you guys are a buzz
NEVADAPRO – I’ll give you $19.99 for the book, but I would like 20 value payments!!!!LOL!!!
bigGP – Dealing with jesse is like herding cats! Or holding smoke in your hands!
NEVADAPRO – Like pushing a boulder with a string?
outback jack – I got a feeling he is typing up an answer right now:d
edgerat- Jesse knows, there is no spoon……
ferretboy – You need to change your moniker to master cat herder Greg
bigGP – nawwww at least you can find the boulder…..
bigGP – lmao
NEVADAPRO – LOL!!!
ferretboy- and write a book too, the Zen of cat herding
bigGP – Jesse is pissed right now….cuz he is trying an answer to the shoulder question while I bash his face in and he can’t reply!!!!
bigGP – he he hehe he
ferretboy – he’ll give it back full force at nationals GP
outback jack – Whoa whoa let up on him at least till he answers it lol
JHENS87 – I’m sure he’s afraid of you ferret lol
bigGP – probly
ferretboy – oh, and I drank the koolaid and bought the stingers
bigGP – shibby!
JHENS87 – I’m trying to shoot bstinger. Really trying
fasst – Send me one of those stingers Dave
montigre – I have a whole hive of ’em….
ferretboy – not a chance trav, hell I put one of the sidebars on my element and its working awesome as a front with 6 ounces on there
Jesse Broadwater- my bow shoulder always has seemed to be a lil higher than most… I dunno why, it just seems to lock in there… but I have done work on lowering it last year, and it lowered some, and still remained comfy… I think it was causing me some low misses here and there…
fasst – gee thanks Dave
edgerat – my turn for a question now? It is hard-hitting….
fasst – go for it edge, then conquest is up
Jesse Broadwater- mike mathews helped me with this also… he took some pics, and said I wasn’t standing straight
ferretboy – greg, find out where Jeremy’s stabilizer is, least you can do for him being such a great moderator tonight
edgerat – Mr. Broadwater, what is like being out-dressed on the line by Greg Poole?
fasst – ouch, edge!
bigGP – he is used to it.
ferretboy – so your posture was keeping your bow shoulder high?
JHENS87 – I know where my stab is at ferret, waiting to be put together LOL
ferretboy – wait…wait… let him finish this question
Jesse Broadwater- said I was leaning back a lil, needed to get my upper body more centered over my hips, and to do this, I shifted a lil more weight over my lead foot, and it seemed to help higher shoulder
fasst – nice tip Jesse
ferretboy- nice, that was some valuable info
outback jack – k thanks will give me something to look at
conquest – Do you pull hard into the wall or do you shoot off the front of the cam? Do you fletch right or left helical and why?
bigGP – I got packing to do folks. I am OUT!!! Thanks everyone and good looking out Jesse! See you tomorrow
Jesse Broadwater – he told me to kind of pretend I’m shooting a lil bit of a downhill target on the set up, and that made total sense to me, and it worked pretty good.. but that’s kind of a major change, even though it doesn’t sound like much, it changes feel a lot, after you have been doing something the same way for so long, like whooping Greg in foot races, and shooting, for him to actually prevail one time, it just wouldn’t seem right you know.. gotta give it some adaptation time… hahahahahahehehehehe!!!
fasst – Thanks again Greg!
JHENS87 – have fun building my stab for me GP
ferretboy – later Greg, putem in the x
Jesse Broadwater – sweet dreams Greg!…hahaha
ferretboy – hahahahaha, he won’t beat you unless he takes out your knee caps
Jesse Broadwater- ( I sure hope he logged out before reading that)
conquest – my turn?
Jesse Broadwater- conquest.. yes….
NEVADAPRO – I told you Jesse would get you back when he was through typing Greg!!LOL!!!
Jesse Broadwater – I shoot just against wall
bigGP – ohhhhh foot race?? I don’t race scrubs!…after I already whooped them!..goodnight now!!!
conquest – how about fletching
Jesse Broadwater – unless it real windy, then I pull a lil harder
Jesse Broadwater- and I fletchings I have been going with left off set… gives you better vane to cable clearance with bigger arrows especially…
montigre – Ooh, gotta be up in 4 hours…Thanks, again Jesse and best of luck to everyone heading out to L’ville!!
Jesse Broadwater- ok, I can do about two more.. then got lots to do.. Leaving for AZ Cup at about 3 in morning… I will sleep on plane…..
fasst – Daniel Boone, go for it big guy!!
GoldCustard – Hi Jesse, I was wondering if there is a recommended procedure for setting the optimal position (front/back) of arrow contact with the freakshow arrowrest? Thanks
Daniel Boone – Jesse have you shot the GT new Fita arrow and will that be your arrow for field this year! Did you enjoy the ASA event in Monroe?
JHENS87 – good question DB, I’m interested in those new arrows
Jesse Broadwater- rest question first, than GT…
edgerat – montigre sure knows how to make an exit.
Jesse Broadwater – sight bow in…. then draw back, and torque bow, and shoot, if arrow hits the way your stabilizer was pointed when torques, the rest needs to come back…. if it goes opposite, it needs to go forward… really that simple
Jesse Broadwater- I have not shot or seen new small dia GT fita arrows….
edgerat – dang, that is a good piece of tuning info!
ferretboy- that’s the question I had lined up before I got booted. Thanks edge
Daniel Boone – Good info on rest, many always wonder
Jesse Broadwater- I am shooting 500 kinetics now, and they shoot real good…. 120 up front, 2″ aae max vanes on back, and they pound! Weigh about 345….
ferretboy – I’m out all, thanks for coming jess, professional as always. Congrats on Vegas and best of luck at Louisville and abroad. Dave Henderson
fasst – Folks, let’s give Jesse, Greg and Goldtip a HUGE thank you! We got off to a rocky start but ended up with some really good questions and answers. Jeremy will have a transcript build to post in the General Forums sometime tomorrow!
Daniel Boone – Thanks Jesse good luck in Arizona
Edgerat- THANKS JESSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bigredhunter00 – lol
JHENS87 – thanks again Jesse
Jesse Broadwater- And I enjoyed Monroe! I wanna do another, I know what to do know, and could do a lot better, it was fun..
Jesse Broadwater- thanks you guys! And you’re all welcome!
JHENS87 – you let us know when you want to do one
Jesse Broadwater – wish we had more time… let’s do it again!
ferretboy – yeah
fasst – sure thing Jesse!
Jesse Broadwater- see you all later!!